Minimoog Model D Garageband

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Ironically in GarageBand (along with 5 instances of Zeeon) this doesn't happen. TheBro October 2018. I think Moog Model D is gonna be my. I made a custom preset using the Moog Model D app and an amp on GarageBand iOS. This video demos the sound as well as the settings to replicate it yourself if.

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@orand said:
@Arpseechord said:
Just wondering if someone who beta tested this can explain why this app and all other Moog apps don’t have a global tuning option?
I’m guessing they feel the Tune knob on the Controllers panel is sufficient.
If you don’t want to save a tuning per preset, you could CC map the Tune knob and send a fixed value to it each time after you change presets. A bit of a hack, certainly, but would sort of accomplish global tuning.
Ah yes thanks for the observations and tips. I guess I was so engrossed in listening to the presets yesterday that I didn’t see the small lettering for the tune knob! Will try tweaking it to a tuner I have and see how close I can get. It seems fairly sensitive when dialing the knob so I’m hopeful
Cheers
@Proto said:
@Cib
I never bought a moog synth app simply because they all sound boring to my ears (shame). Why you dont buy Layr if you like blending/layering sounds ? Im waiting for the au update and the brice presets are the best i have heard of any synth.> @MonzoPro said:
@richardyot said:
Plenty of great music has been made with artists running just one monophonic hardware Minimoog. So the fact that an Air 2 can't run five instances in AUv3 isn't really the end of the world. You can always layer by recording.
It's not the end of the World, no. But as I said in my post, that's not how I work. I make music by jamming live with a bunch of synths all at once. Recording synths and instruments one at a time, track by track doesn't inspire me to create fresh sounding music. I'm happy to overdub once the initial jam has been recorded, but to capture any spontaneity I need that live element to begin with.
The beauty of the new Moog is the bass sounds. That, coupled with a couple of Model 15's playing arp's, Layr or Synthscaper for pads, a couple of Ruismaker's, a bunch of FX all running through AUM would be perfect for me. If I tried it though I'd end up ten minutes later with molten aluminium on my lap.
The temptation is to buy it and wait until I can buy an iPad fast enough to run it as I want to. The reality is probably by then iOS13 will have crippled devices with animated moji overload and pop-ups, and it'll be languishing in a folder called 'one day'.
Why you dont use a DAW and bounce to audio tracks. You can do big projects only using 2/3 iaa's/au's at the same time, plus you dont need a new ipad pro.
Adding a DAW such as Auria would just add more CPU hit. Unless I’m barking up the wrong tree, an AUM/AU setup recorded to Audioshare is the lightest option.
@richardyot grabbed the patches. Thanks. I shared a couple back in the thread also. Yes, Dropbox seems to be the method for now.
@gusgranite said:
@richardyot grabbed the patches. Thanks. I shared a couple back in the thread also. Yes, Dropbox seems to be the method for now.
Yes I grabbed your patches too - thanks!
@richardyot said:
@gusgranite said:
@richardyot grabbed the patches. Thanks. I shared a couple back in the thread also. Yes, Dropbox seems to be the method for now.
Yes I grabbed your patches too - thanks!
Thanks for the patches. Always love a good feedback sound.
Have either of you had luck creating a velocity sensitive patch where velocity controls either the sound volume or filter cutoff?
Here's a workaround if you're using this on a small phone and can't see what you're doing:
Load as an AU in Garageband.
Hit knob symbol to expose Model D parameters.
Hit triple-sliders symbol to change the Model 15 GUI to generic parameters display where every one of Model D's knobs, switches or choice boxes is just a simply labelled slider in a scrollable interface.
(Only thing is, Garageband on iPhone does not offer a mod wheel, so I can't figure out where Model D is getting its 'position of mod wheel' setting from when you build an init patch there).
The synth is a brilliant recreation and great value but I do agree the AU UI needs some work. Needs a zoom to get it full screen on the 12.9. And the shadows of the knobs hide some of the numbers. I don’t mind the sideways preset thing though I think that works quite well.
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really miss the Animoog scale lockable keyboard. But other than that it’s pretty great. Super easy to program too. To the point where I wouldn’t even worry about presets. The bender effect makes a world of difference and oscillator 3 can be used for fm type stuff
@Proto said:
@Cib
I never bought a moog synth app simply because they all sound boring to my ears (shame). Why you dont buy Layr if you like blending/layering sounds ? Im waiting for the au update and the brice presets are the best i have heard of any synth.> @MonzoPro said:
@richardyot said:
Plenty of great music has been made with artists running just one monophonic hardware Minimoog. So the fact that an Air 2 can't run five instances in AUv3 isn't really the end of the world. You can always layer by recording.
It's not the end of the World, no. But as I said in my post, that's not how I work. I make music by jamming live with a bunch of synths all at once. Recording synths and instruments one at a time, track by track doesn't inspire me to create fresh sounding music. I'm happy to overdub once the initial jam has been recorded, but to capture any spontaneity I need that live element to begin with.
The beauty of the new Moog is the bass sounds. That, coupled with a couple of Model 15's playing arp's, Layr or Synthscaper for pads, a couple of Ruismaker's, a bunch of FX all running through AUM would be perfect for me. If I tried it though I'd end up ten minutes later with molten aluminium on my lap.
The temptation is to buy it and wait until I can buy an iPad fast enough to run it as I want to. The reality is probably by then iOS13 will have crippled devices with animated moji overload and pop-ups, and it'll be languishing in a folder called 'one day'.
Why you dont use a DAW and bounce to audio tracks. You can do big projects only using 2/3 iaa's/au's at the same time, plus you dont need a new ipad pro.
LayR looks great but the FX are so lala. I would much prefer to layer f.e. DRC, TF8 and Zeeon or so.
I also think LayR might be pain on an iPhone.
Yeah, i was in the Apple store today and had a look at those giant iPad Pro 12.9“ and i bet all these apps are great to use there. But i would get not much use out of an iPad so i pass.
All i want would be Alchemy.....i mean the full one from Logic.
It does everthing i could dream on an iOS device and the old app is beside things like Animoog and very few others the best GUI for a touch screen ever.
DRC is wonderful too.
@richardyot said:
@gusgranite said:
@richardyot grabbed the patches. Thanks. I shared a couple back in the thread also. Yes, Dropbox seems to be the method for now.
Yes I grabbed your patches too - thanks!
Thank you both for your patches. I was able to directly download them from Safari using the Files app option via direct download from the links. I too, had to open and close ModelD after each preset import so hopefully Moog will fix this bug.
edited March 2018
I see people are asking about the possibility of using velocity to modulate the level and filter cutoff on the Model D.
Since this looks like it’s pretty much an (excellent) recreation of the original hardware, there is no velocity available. Wasn’t then, isn’t now!
Some will complain that they did add Midi velocity to the latest reboot of the hardware, but sadly it’s not available here. They did keep the extended modulation goodies like a separate LFO to free up oscillator 3 for audio duties and also added the ability to push the oscillators with the filter envelope, which adds a lot of welcome programming possibilities.
And the sound...well it’s pretty awesome, with lots of tweakability given the fixed routing nature of the original hardware.
I’ve found that it’s much easier to use on the smaller IPhone if you use one of those cheapie pencils with the squishy conductive rubber tip. If you tap a knob and move away, you’re still linked to that knob, and now you’re in the fine adjustment mode, which makes adjustments on the fly much easier, and gives you lots of room for fine control. I did a fair amount of programming for this using my 7 when traveling and never really felt that it was a problem, although I much prefer an IPad if possible.
Current IPads are getting much cheaper now that the newer models are on the horizon.
If you can’t stand scrolling through tons of presets (I hate it too) create and name a new bank folder (long press on the save button) and drop interesting presets you find in the big folders in there. You can even create multiple folders named with your favorite categories so the selection is smaller, more specific, and easier to find when in creation mode. Be sure to archive stuff to make it available later...I mail banks to myself so they are available for multiple devices easily.
Now, Velocity. What could we do?
I was thinking about this on the way to work this morning, and it occurred to me that you could certainly use the Model 15 to control the Model D via CCs and use the 15’s Midi Bridge to transmit key velocity as a CC. I would patch the 15 velocity out buss into a couple of the reversible attenuators (allows positive or negative scalable velocity) and then plug the outputs into a couple of the available TO MIDI CC jacks, and then assign those CCs to whatever you want to control on the Model D.
Now, if you think of the Model D as an extension of the Model 15, then all sorts of interesting programming becomes possible as you use the various capabilities provided by the 15 to control aspects of the Model D. The envelopes, LFO’s etc can all be ported over in this way. Mod Wheel controls attack time! Envelopes push oscillators in different directions! Let your creative instincts run wild! Just about everything on the Model D can be linked to a CC. (!)
It’s a Model D MODULAR! And, saving the created presets for each will preserve your work (you can create, save and load multiple CC maps on the Model D...how cool is THAT???)
I plan to play around with this a bit this evening if time allows.
I hope this helps.
I’m really getting into the “spirit” of this one — I deleted all of the preset banks and am running it into Logic via IDAM rather than trying to use it as an AU in GarageBand iOS.
It’s pretty CPU-hungry for an AU but it’s perfectly fine standalone. I’m on an iPad Mini 4 and haven’t noticed any heat whatsoever, although I’ve not used the Bender very much.
I know it’s not the workflow that a lot of users want (given that this is an iOS music forum), but it’s a huge step up from Retro Synth IMO and I’m just thrilled.
@Cib
Agree, DRC sounds great (demo) with or without fx. I was waiting for the au update, but think ill buy it now together with Layr. The fx section of Layr wouldn't be a real problem since we have dozen of fx au/iaa apps, but on an iphone i can understand its a no go.
I also have Zeeon, i like it, but it all sounds a bit the same compared to his older brother 'Sunrizer'.
edited March 2018
@jrjulius said:
I’m really getting into the “spirit” of this one — I deleted all of the preset banks and am running it into Logic via IDAM rather than trying to use it as an AU in GarageBand iOS.
It’s pretty CPU-hungry for an AU but it’s perfectly fine standalone. I’m on an iPad Mini 4 and haven’t noticed any heat whatsoever, although I’ve not used the Bender very much.
I know it’s not the workflow that a lot of users want (given that this is an iOS music forum), but it’s a huge step up from Retro Synth IMO and I’m just thrilled.
But Retro synth can be magic too (but still ES2 has much much more balls....the unison is killing it).
But i maybe should also try to play the Minimoog into Logic via my Seaboard but then i can use my other emulations for this.
Crazy to say but i´m not to impressed with a 'real' Moog for 5 dollar. The world is just oversaturated with synths maybe these days.
What would be great would be the filters as FX too so that i can use it with other OSC´s and whatever sound source.
Something like Arturia 3 filter FX (SEM, M12 and Minimoog) which i think are also updated versions of their synths as AUv3.
Is the iVCS3 the only one?
For those who want to compare Model 15 and Model D, you may or may not know that the Model D was the first consumer product that Moog came out with. I paid about $1500 for my Minimoog new, less than a DX7 or M1. (I should have kept it). A Model 15 is a much more complicated critter and costs big dough.
So the original Model D was obviously stripped down in features from other Moog hardware synths. But because it was relatively cheap compared to the bigger Moogs, more musicians had it, and therefore the sounds of the Model D turned up on a lot of records. It's fondly remembered, and that's why so many try to model it and sample it. It's not just iMini, it's also Minimod in Syntronik.
I loved my D, but I got bored with having to take notes on settings in order to get a sound back. No presets. And monophonic. And in truth, I didn't have a clue what I was doing. I was just twiddling knobs and having fun.
If you think that the sound of Model 15 is lusher or fatter than the Model D, you may be right--I don't know. There are certainly fewer elements creating the sounds. But for me, it's just that the sound is different. All the Moog synths have slightly different sounds.
@Reid said:
For those who want to compare Model 15 and Model D, you may or may not know that the Model D was the first consumer product that Moog came out with. I paid about $1500 for my Minimoog new, less than a DX7 or M1. (I should have kept it). A Model 15 is a much more complicated critter and costs big dough.
So the original Model D was obviously stripped down in features from other Moog hardware synths. But because it was relatively cheap compared to the bigger Moogs, more musicians had it, and therefore the sounds of the Model D turned up on a lot of records. It's fondly remembered, and that's why so many try to model it and sample it. It's not just iMini, it's also Minimod in Syntronik.
I loved my D, but I got bored with having to take notes on settings in order to get a sound back. No presets. And monophonic. And in truth, I didn't have a clue what I was doing. I was just twiddling knobs and having fun.
If you think that the sound of Model 15 is lusher or fatter than the Model D, you may be right--I don't know. There are certainly fewer elements creating the sounds. But for me, it's just that the sound is different. All the Moog synths have slightly different sounds.
I agree with this, and I would add one thing:
Being that the Minimoog was the first widely available, affordable (sic) synth, it's the perfect vehicle to learn how basic synthesis works and how to program your own sounds. There are a myriad of other synths (hardware and software) that have their roots (both design-wise and sonically) in the Minimoog so learning your way around one is a great way to help tackle more complicated synthesizers.
edited March 2018
Def. the Minimoog might still THE analog synth (to go) for many.
It´s a great and juicy one also as software and easy to use but still versatile.
I personally find the Pro-One a lot more interesting because of it´s much better performance oriented and even crazy versatile for a mono synth modulation matrix. I also think it has a much wider modulation range which no other synth has (maybe i´m wrong).
I hope someone will make a high end emulation for an Octave Cat.
But Dagger is so powerful as well.....it blows that Moog app away!!
The great thing about the Model D is that it’s so bloody easy to make sounds with it. I love the Model 15, but it’s interface on a 9.7 iPad screen does not make for easy programming, hence I haven’t bothered with it much.
Obviously it’s personal preference of what makes some synth apps easy to program. I find the PPG WaveMapper a really easy synth to program, yet many dislike the PPG app interfaces.
@Fruitbat1919 said:
The great thing about the Model D is that it’s so bloody easy to make sounds with it. I love the Model 15, but it’s interface on a 9.7 iPad screen does not make for easy programming, hence I haven’t bothered with it much.
Obviously it’s personal preference of what makes some synth apps easy to program. I find the PPG WaveMapper a really easy synth to program, yet many dislike the PPG app interfaces.
Infinite looks like it´s from an alien ship.....but damn it is so mind blowing awesome....and no one talk about it anymore.
Funny that on my iPhone Model 15 might even more easy to use than Model D.
edited March 2018
@RedSkyLullaby said:
Another plus is MPE compatibility. geoshred plays it nicely for those missing the animoog style keys. Doing a little vid
looking forward to this, I'm on an iPad mini 4 latest os and for some reason model d sees geoshred in the midi prefs and geoshred sees the model d in it's midi prefs but no matter if I set Geo to mpe control or model d, can't get sound. I'm gonna do a hard reset and try again... btw also made sure that background audio was on in model d but the problem persist.
Just had a 20 minute bus ride session with it on an iPhone 6s. Have to concur that it's borderline unusable. Well, programming the synth bits anyway. Hard-to-impossible for me to read most text labels (aging eyes are a factor, surely) and the knob value indicators very dim/small. Hopefully they have a few dev cycles available in the not terribly distant future to make some small-screen usability improvements. And the Animoog keyboard, natch.
@Cib said:
@Fruitbat1919 said:
The great thing about the Model D is that it’s so bloody easy to make sounds with it. I love the Model 15, but it’s interface on a 9.7 iPad screen does not make for easy programming, hence I haven’t bothered with it much.
Obviously it’s personal preference of what makes some synth apps easy to program. I find the PPG WaveMapper a really easy synth to program, yet many dislike the PPG app interfaces.
Infinite looks like it´s from an alien ship.....but damn it is so mind blowing awesome....and no one talk about it anymore.
Funny that on my iPhone Model 15 might even more easy to use than Model D.
Yeah love Infinite, but I do find it easy to get sidetracked when programming it. I start doing one thing and then another and then....so on and so on. I find I don’t make loads of sounds on it, because I don’t know when to stop on it!
Why not use the Animoog keyboard to control the Model D?
@Audiohub said:
I see people are asking about the possibility of using velocity to modulate the level and filter cutoff on the Model D.
Since this looks like it’s pretty much an (excellent) recreation of the original hardware, there is no velocity available. Wasn’t then, isn’t now!
Some will complain that they did add Midi velocity to the latest reboot of the hardware, but sadly it’s not available
Thanks for your response and ideas.
My main point is the original minimoog did as you note not support even midi itself. But the minimoog model d according to moog's own website did.
From the product page:
'
Though no changes have been made to the original sound engine or audio signal path, the Minimoog Model D® now includes a series of popular functional modifications that expand this legendary instrument’s sonic capabilities. These modifications include a premium Fatar keybed with velocity and after pressure available via top panel CV jacks, a dedicated analog LFO with triangle and square waveshapes, CV outputs for pitch, gate, velocity and after pressure, basic MIDI integration, and a mixer overload modification, which when engaged, allows the Minimoog Model D® to conjure thicker and far more overdriven sounds than before.
NOTE: Due to the complexity of the build process coupled with the demand for other Moog instruments, we are only able to produce a small number of Minimoog Model D units per month.
• 3 vintage Moog oscillators
• Classic Moog low pass ladder filter with resonance
• Analog circuit boards recreated using original designs and component placement
• Custom reissued transistors critical to sound quality and character
• Military spec precision resistors
• Precision Linear System matched JFETs in oscillators
• Classic thermoset, knurled pitch and mod wheels
• CV Modifications: outputs added for Pitch, Aftertouch, Velocity and Gate (Aftertouch and Velocity have dedicated output level attenuators)
• Modulation Modifications: analog Triangle/Square wave LFO and Filter Envelope added as modulation sources, as well as an External Modulation CV input
• Overload Modification: the output of the Minimoog Model D is automatically scaled and fed back to the External Audio Input for instantly available overdrive
• Improved circuit board connectors for touring reliability
• Fatar TP-9 keybed with velocity and aftertouch
• MIDI in, out and thru
'
Also this is not an exact recreation of either since it 'adds' polyphony and apparently some MPE support.
I love the app though and hope they consider updating it to reflect the model d as shown on their own product page for the original...
I wonder about the inconsequence of their apps. Each of their apps having MPE but a different size or even kind of virtual keys. Different preset browser and other things.
Like Korg, Moog seems to lost track how to make a pleasant GUI?
edited March 2018
That may be in the future...who knows?
However, you can use the 15 to add this and more to the Model D right now.
No waiting around hoping for something that might never happen.
I tried a few quick patches during lunch to check it out, and it works quite well.
At home you would connect your controller to the Midi In of the 15, and the 15 to the Midi In of the Model D.
You could also use the Animoog keyboard or Model 15 ribbon controller as accessories to the Model D.
This really opens up a LOT of possibilities, including stuff that you can’t even do on the Model 15, because things like all the envelope settings (and more) are available and completely mappable for CC control.
You can patch SIX different CC’s across the Midi Bridge, enough to add some serious control to your patches, and way more than you could do with a hardware Model 15 and Model D.
I’ve gotta say, I’m really impressed with this app, and this opens up a huge area of sonic capability.
After some time i like it a bit more. Like Model 15 and Zeeon it‘s like Spice.
They can cut really trough a mix but like with any spice you should handle with care if you want no noisy hell of low end distortion
At this price anyone on the fence get off and buy it. Many updates coming(assumption based on history)